Xbox 2

[AjRap2]

To: Xbox Gamers
Petition to make Xbox2 backwards compatible

Microsoft Xbox Hardware Development (www.xbox.com) has yet to decide if they are going to make the Xbox2* backwards compatible with existing Xbox games for the Xbox(1), this petition is a request to Microsoft to make the next Xbox play the Xbox games of today. We urge you, existing and future Xbox owners, please sign this petition, hopefully Microsoft will listen and hear the public demand and make the Xbox2 backwards compatible.

*Xbox2 (Codename: Xenon, a.k.a. XboxNext, a.k.a. Xbox II), expected to be released in year 2005.

Background: Xbox is a popular game console by Microsoft. The existing Xbox has an x86 (Pentium III) processor made by Intel (www.intel.com), however Microsoft has for the Xbox2 contracted IBM (www.ibm.com) for processor design/development would could lead to a non-x86 processor would mean that all existing Xbox games would not be compatible with the next Xbox, Xbox2. IBM is one of the world-leaders in innovation of processor design, they make PowerPC processors for Mac (www.apple.com), plus they are also developing the processors for the PlayStation3 and GameCube2, but none of these processors are x86 based and can thus not run x86 instructions in its core. Now x86 can be emulated in software but this is a very intensive task and as an example the very fastest PowerPC processor in 2005 (two years from now) would not be fast enough to run an 'old' Xbox game at full speed, (even so, Microsoft will not use the fastest processor in Xbox2 but instead the one that is most value for money). Now IBM does have the expertise and capability to re-design a PowerPC processor to run x86 natively in the processor core, and even if IBM couldn't design this themselves they could easily license the technology from other x86 CPU developers like AMD, Intel, VIA or Transmeta. As a selling argument and reason why Microsoft should do this just look at the PS2 from Sony (www.playstation.com), it would not have sold even close to what they do did when it came out if it wasn't backward compatible with PS1 games.


Source: http://www.petitiononline.com/xbox2/petition.html

--------Extra links---------
XBOX 2 Prototype (http://www.xboxgazette.com/i/xbox2_prototype.jpg)
XBOX 2 Protype #2 (http://www.xboxmagazine.co.kr/bbs/data/kxmspecial/1052740766/render1.jpg)
XBOX 2 Controller prototype (http://www.xboxgazette.com/i/xbox2_controller.jpg)

[Matt]

kewl protos....

[Matt]

!!
installa....why'd you edit my post?

[Markleshark]

Yes, please give a reason, what did you post originally Matt?

I dont like either of the prototypes, but the controller looks damn nice! :)

[Taro]

Yah installa, why did you edit it ;)

Anyway, The photos look cool. I personally like the first prototype and the controller reminds me of a ship strait out of star wars. lol The new xbox better be backwards compatible. Imagine how many people they will ---- of if it isnt ;)

[Ash]

Originally posted by markleshark@Nov 25 03, 09:58 AM
Yes, please give a reason, what did you post originally Matt?

I dont like either of the prototypes, but the controller looks damn nice! :)
I agree with you, the first one is especially awful :zombie:

But the controller will still be nothing compared to Sony's :P

[MikeC]

not sure, i quite like the first one personally

[Taro]

Next time, just mention it in a reply ;)

[Ed]

K

[IdCaabma]

Where are those image protos gone? was trying to show a mate and can't see them (404). Did anyone save them or know where else they can be found?

[Ash]

I pulled them from my cache for you :)

Prototype 1 (http://www.nbsdesignz.com/~ash/proto1.jpg)
Prototype 2 (http://www.nbsdesignz.com/~ash/proto2.jpg)
Prototype Controller (http://www.nbsdesignz.com/~ash/controller.jpg)

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[IdCaabma]

Ya brillaint mate! Thanks a million!

[AjRap2]

Been looking around online more around some secret places and........

http://www.nbsdesignz.com/~ash/proto1.jpg

and

http://www.nbsdesignz.com/~ash/controller.jpg

May have been XBOX 1 prototypes........

Would've been great if they came out like that :)

[Kingcodez]

hmm i think they were going to use a G5 processor but i dunno

that would really suck if it wasnt backwards compat. but by then hopefully what happened to PSX will happen to XBOX(they make a smaller cheaper version) but then again thats really hard considering the HDD

my Q is can a 64 bit cpu play a 32 bit game?
I personally would welcome the trade off, a better cpu but no BK Compat.

but then again PS2/3 fanboys will flame it for this MINOR inconvience


i cant spell today

[Ed]

I like teh contorler that Aj posted an image of, i tihnk that microsoft does listen to their users. Alot of feed back about the bulky controlers. and now, smaller controlers. Great, nice. but its not all about the controlers, i do want to get an xbox 2, although im more a sony playstation boy, i do liek the new xbox 2. This is going to be great. and Personally, I would like some price ranges for the xbox 2. i know its a little while away from the debute but still a price range would be nice.

[Kingcodez]

Originally posted by installaboard@Jan 5 04, 05:11 PM
Personally, I would like some price ranges for the xbox 2. i know its a little while away from the debute but still a price range would be nice.
Mee too so i know what to save up for so i dont get stuck moneyless at the release date

[MikeC]

i would say that it will be like any new console betwee the £200 & £300 mark ($300 & $400???)

[Ignite]

I heard it was coming out in 05, along with the new Game Sphere(nintendo), and PS3.

[Kingcodez]

Originally posted by Rubix@Jan 5 04, 10:51 PM
I heard it was coming out in 05, along with the new Game Sphere(nintendo), and PS3.
hah Game sphere

Okama Game Sphere

ring ne bells
that was in south park

i think the commercial said it was 100x better then the game station and the v box lol