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Fierce Deity
02-Jan-2004, 02:14 AM
first off this is for AMD's, not intel there isn't THAT big of a difference but it could mean you frying the ---- out of your intel if you try this on it. Secondly i take no responsiblitity if you screw up your sytem doing this.. ;)

First you must have some basics on how a motherboard works . It has a clock generator that gives a certain frequency . This value is multiplied by certain numbers , and gives the FSB frequency , RAM bus frequency , PCI frequency , AGP frequency ... Notice that the FSB is not the same thing as RAM bus frequency , this is a common mistake . Also , the RAM and FSB frequencies are different from the actual speed , wich is twice as fast , because they are working at double data rate (DDR) . Example : 266FSB runs at 133mhz . In conclusion , all the speeds on the mobo depend on it's clock generator .

Now , the CPU has 3 important characteristics : it's FSB , multiplier and core voltage . The actual speed of the CPU is FSB freq times multiplier . Example : XP1600+ has a 10.5 multiplier and 133 bus , so it runs at 133 x 10.5 = 1400mhz .

For a good overclock , you will need a good motherboard , wich has settings for fsb increase mhz by mhz , CPU multiplier , CPU core voltage , RAM voltage and RAM latencies .

Most of the AMD chips come multiplier-locked , so you have to unlock them . There are many guides on the unlocking stuff out there , just search one for your particular type of CPU .

First , you must make sure that the CPU is set at the same bus as the RAM , otherwise one of the 2 will not use the other's extra bandwidth , and you don't want that . For example , if you have PC2700 memory and a 166mhz RAM capable motherboard (like the ones with the KT333 chipset) , you should set the CPU also to 166 mhz FSB , and lowering the multiplier below the default value , until the CPU frequency is around 20% under the default one . This is very important .

Now you start increasing the FSB (really you are increasing the mobo's clock , wich takes all the frequencies -AGP,PCI,RAM- higher) , keeping the same low multiplier . The purpose is to get the best FSB stable , no matter what speed the CPU is .To gain stability at high speeds , you must add more voltage to the CPU and to the RAM , sometimes even to the AGP slot , but usually you don't need that . This is a very tricky thing , because voltage brings stability , but also heat , and heat is bad for stability . With a good cooling setup you can take out all the extra heat , try to keep you CPU under 50 C if you can , and never let it go over 60C .

For good performance you can use the best timings on the memory :
CAS latency 2
4-way bank interleave
1T command
RAS & RAS to CAS delay & all the other stuff to minimal latency .
Using these settings help your performance at a certain speed , but they can bring instability , so it's a matter of trial and error . Without them , you'll be able to hit higher frequencies on the RAM , but the real performance may be lower (depends on the type of RAM).

When you hit the highest FSB stable , you can start tweaking on the CPU multiplier . Increase it in 0.5 increments , until you have the highest possible speed , stable . The CPU core voltage increase will help you again .

Remember , always an eye on the temps , 60C is the maximum you should go . The lower the temperature , the more stable at high speeds the CPU is .

MikeC
03-Jan-2004, 02:14 AM
to be honest i wouldnt let your temp go up to 60 degress unless you have a good cooling system i would say try to stick at 50 and below.

Fierce Deity
03-Jan-2004, 04:21 AM
yea, thats why it says keep it under 50 but never let it go over 60, kinda like an early warning system of sorts, lol.

nightfox_pc_asst
03-Jan-2004, 07:57 AM
my temps are:

System: 30*C
CPU: 44*C

and I have a thermaltake volvano 11+ running at 4800 rmps

I think the paste needs to be changes to the silver compound for better heat transferance...

:) But of course Im running an over clocked machine too...

Nightfox PC Asst

adamb10
03-Jan-2004, 08:22 AM
I have amd cpu. My way of overclocking: Keep increasing voltage until the cpu catches on fire. Thats when you know you over clocked too much :)

Then use that voltage amount for next time and keep lowering it until it doesn't catch on fire.

Erick
03-Jan-2004, 09:32 AM
Originally posted by adamb10@Jan 3 04, 08:22 AM
I have amd cpu.  My way of overclocking:  Keep increasing voltage until the cpu catches on fire.  Thats when you know you over clocked too much :)

Then use that voltage amount for next time and keep lowering it until it doesn't catch on fire.
'cause you know I've got hundreds of dollars to burn on athlon chips (pardon the pun).... ;)

nightfox_pc_asst
03-Jan-2004, 09:42 AM
my current Vcore voltage is only 1.725

So me thinks he was just being a 'smart ---'

:lol:

NF