View Full Version : Matt (owner Of Ipb) Is A Goddam Liar!
Emily
27-Sep-2004, 11:41 PM
This one's going to hit him like a ton of bricks.
"Yes, we're pushing our paid services harder, but we're still offering a free product that is fully functional. This has always been our vision and it's not going to change. "They" said 1.1 wouldn't be free, it was. "They" said 1.2 wouldn't be free, it was. "They" said 1.3 wouldn't be free, it was. "They" say 2.0 won't be free - and it will be." (http://64.233.179.104/search?q=cache:_bPU0b98-1UJ:forums.invisionpower.com/lofiversion/index.php/t103799.html)
(BOW DOWN TO THE GOOGLE!)
Emily
28-Sep-2004, 12:01 AM
Check it out, here's another one!
http://web.archive.org/web/20020927090513/...w.ibforums.com/ (http://web.archive.org/web/20020927090513/http://www.ibforums.com/)
Actually, 2.0.0 isnt technically free. Although, I have my major thoughts on the situation, there is a free trial, and they say they are going to enforce time constraints on how long "permanent" use is, but i dont think they will or want to try, doing soemthing like this can potentially hurt a company like them , and is starting to show...
Sara17
28-Sep-2004, 05:18 AM
Originally posted by Ed@Sep 28 04, 02:59 AM
but i dont think they will or want to try, doing soemthing like this can potentially hurt a company like them , and is starting to show...
Hi everyone
I saw this on the phpbb forum and thought it was quite amusing. Some reasonable advice at the end of the page I thought.
http://www.geocities.com/iom4love/index.html
Originally posted by Sara17@Sep 28 04, 05:18 AM
Hi everyone
I saw this on the phpbb forum and thought it was quite amusing. Some reasonable advice at the end of the page I thought.
http://www.geocities.com/iom4love/index.html
LOL :crazed:
Aristia
28-Sep-2004, 08:39 AM
mmm, I don't know if they will go downhill. I know we certainly here a heck of alot of their customers complaints about them. Pay for support? well you don't actually get any from what i've heard. As for their change in plans, that's up to them of course. But they could atleast have the decency to say they changed their minds, not try to bend truth about it.
They've now got a name for their board, it is nice. And as long as you don't need support from themselves, you're fine. I imagine their new offices etc need funding so they've realised they need to enforce the buying of their product. They've basically put their board at the level of vb now. And I believe vb is a very good contender! so, will they win this one or vb? time will tell :)
Now, while it is annoying and devious of them is to have been perfusely saying (till they are red in the face) that it will remain free. And then change their minds and be arrogent about it when people have questioned it. I'm sure they have a fair amount of people to deal with, causing them to be stressed but that attitude isn't winning them any awards!
It's their product, they can do what they like at the end of the day. I imagine alot of work has gone into it so they do deserve some payment for it. A lower price would be good. Not only would it allow more people to buy it, but they would make more money because of it.
And their new forum layout. It appears they are gradually weeding out the community. a community which it rode on the back of for the first years of their boards life. They are forgetting that one! and to forget what made it popular in the first place can't be good.
Still! hope they make it. If they don't, well probably over 3/4 of their members will be furnishing the other free boards :) so that's nice! they are doing other free boards a favour :)
and i've rambled on so i'll shut up now.
long and short of it is, i dont really care what they are doing. Hope it works out for them, but at the end of the day, there's other forum software to use instead.
Emily
28-Sep-2004, 06:44 PM
Originally posted by Aristia@Sep 28 04, 07:39 AM
stuff
Actually, I think IPS is planning to sell. Don't you?
stuartmecham
28-Sep-2004, 08:28 PM
Originally posted by Emily@Sep 28 04, 05:44 PM
Actually, I think IPS is planning to sell. Don't you?
Some how i dont think so
Emily
28-Sep-2004, 08:29 PM
Originally posted by stuartmecham@Sep 28 04, 07:28 PM
Some how i dont think so
Ok...
AjRap2
28-Sep-2004, 09:00 PM
hell let me throw this in the Rant Section....... I'll leave a link to it just for those few still looking for it.
Markleshark
29-Sep-2004, 07:57 PM
Originally posted by Matt
"Yes, we're pushing our paid services harder, but we're still offering a free product that is fully functional. This has always been our vision and it's not going to change. "They" said 1.1 wouldn't be free, it was. "They" said 1.2 wouldn't be free, it was. "They" said 1.3 wouldn't be free, it was. "They" say 2.0 won't be free - and it will be."
LMAO! That is the best quote ever, Nice find!
Lexx
29-Sep-2004, 08:57 PM
Perhaps someone should present that to IPB or even Matt himself. Would like to see the look on their faces while they tried to stammer out their reasoning.
Originally posted by Quote-of-a-Quote
"Yes, we're pushing our paid services harder, but we're still offering a free product that is fully functional. This has always been our vision and it's not going to change.
Show me the Link LOL... He cant, THERE ISNT ONE!!!
Emily
29-Sep-2004, 10:36 PM
I just posted it at IPS. I'll be banned within seconds.
But hey, if we all did it, what could they do?
Lexx
29-Sep-2004, 10:45 PM
Ban us all?
I'm sure they'll have plenty as it is. As Aristia said, it's up to them what they charge for what they produce, but not after making statements such as the above.
Petey
05-Oct-2004, 12:49 AM
Originally posted by Emily@Sep 27 04, 10:41 PM
This one's going to hit him like a ton of bricks.
"Yes, we're pushing our paid services harder, but we're still offering a free product that is fully functional. This has always been our vision and it's not going to change. "They" said 1.1 wouldn't be free, it was. "They" said 1.2 wouldn't be free, it was. "They" said 1.3 wouldn't be free, it was. "They" say 2.0 won't be free - and it will be." (http://64.233.179.104/search?q=cache:_bPU0b98-1UJ:forums.invisionpower.com/lofiversion/index.php/t103799.html)
(BOW DOWN TO THE GOOGLE!)
Well, it would, except that I sent that to him (along with a *nice* email), and he didn't respond to me.
So I posted this link in his blog, and he deleted it.
Fuckers. IPB has handled this in a thoroughly assholish way.
--Petey
Emily
06-Oct-2004, 08:08 AM
Originally posted by Lexx@Sep 29 04, 09:45 PM
Ban us all?
I'm sure they'll have plenty as it is. As Aristia said, it's up to them what they charge for what they produce, but not after making statements such as the above.
And it's up to us... TO STAND UP AND... Ahhh, I'm tired. :3,:
Aristia
06-Oct-2004, 12:26 PM
Perhaps they know they are going downhill and want to get as much money as they can before they become a ghost town ;)
Will78
06-Oct-2004, 12:41 PM
Originally posted by Aristia@Oct 6 04, 07:26 AM
Perhaps they know they are going downhill and want to get as much money as they can before they become a ghost town ;)
^^^ i totally agree :P
DaKo
06-Oct-2004, 03:26 PM
It's a shame indeed after beeing a member there from the very first beginning, before they released the first beta.
They have totally made a fool of themselves... and it's unacceptable imo. <_<
"Liars are like Cotton Candy.
They are packaged in a tasty, delicious disguise, but all they really are is something that spins out of control."
;))
stuartmecham
06-Oct-2004, 03:53 PM
ah well life goes on.. not that i want to pee agaist the wind on this one. By why is it so bad that a company wants to make money from its own software?
My personal view..
Aristia
08-Oct-2004, 01:55 PM
It's not stu, the bad part of this is that this company promised this version will be free. We can't hold much faith in a company that cannot keep it's promises.
rshield
11-Oct-2004, 05:07 AM
To combat this outrage i am putting together my own forum scripts. At first it won't be as good as IPB, but i think i'll get there! :LMAO:
I just want them to offer the trial versions for free like i'll do, and for the full version it won't even be as much as Invision are charging! How have they gotten away with it for this long?
And yes Invision Power Services was sold. ;))
Eris
24-Oct-2004, 02:03 PM
It's not stu, the bad part of this is that this company promised this version will be free. We can't hold much faith in a company that cannot keep it's promises.
Damn right, we can't trust them!
I don't recommend the board anymore....
B0nzo
25-Oct-2004, 11:49 AM
The boards themselves are really good, but yeah, they really did go back on what they said about there always being a free version, and for that i believe they have lost alot of potential customers, and perhaps the trust of some of their current customers. And they are handling the situation in a very foolish way, because if potential customers find out what they are doing, i think they might just reconsider.